major doctrines: sin and salvation

Written by Dan King

Christ-follower. husband. father. author of the unlikely missionary: from pew-warmer to poverty-fighter. co-author of activist faith: from him and for him. school of ministry and missions instructor. president of fistbump media, llc.

December 7, 2008

This is number four in a five-part series on major Christian doctrines that I’ve done for a project in my Systematic Theology class. This particular video briefly discusses the doctrine of sin and salvation. It touches on the idea of how our free will affects our ability to be with God, and how salvation is the solution to this separation. Let me know what you think…

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19 Comments

  1. Brandon

    Ok, I will Comment!!! I will Say that was interesting listen to. It seems that in this day of age there has been a lot of confusion about the entire Chosen, Pre-destine, and the Do we really have free Will stuff. Looking at scriptures God had Chosen the people of Israel but he had continually handed them over to their sin until they repented. Even now Christ says in
    Revelations 3:20 Look! I am standing at the door and knocking. If anyone listens to my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he will eat with me.

    To me this is saying that God has chosen to bestow His grace upon us by providing a way for us. It is on our part to “open the door” and allow God into our lives.

    In conclusion to what I'm trying to say is, Sure God chooses us but he also gives us the Free will so that, like you said in your video “freely love him”.

    Thanks for the video, I'm still learning more about it all.

    Reply
  2. BibleDude

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts Brandon! I appreciate your perspective! We could carry this conversation pretty deeply into the whole predestination discussion as you seem to touch on a bit, but I'll leave that issue for another time.

    I agree however that it is free will that give love the substance that it needs. If the subject does not have a choice, then it cannot be love. I think that this is an important thing to understand when it comes to understanding sin and salvation (as I pointed out in the video).

    Stay tuned for more in this series next week! Thanks for dropping by!

    Reply
  3. Brandon

    Ok, I will Comment!!! I will Say that was interesting listen to. It seems that in this day of age there has been a lot of confusion about the entire Chosen, Pre-destine, and the Do we really have free Will stuff. Looking at scriptures God had Chosen the people of Israel but he had continually handed them over to their sin until they repented. Even now Christ says in Revelations 3:20 Look! I am standing at the door and knocking. If anyone listens to my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he will eat with me.To me this is saying that God has chosen to bestow His grace upon us by providing a way for us. It is on our part to “open the door” and allow God into our lives. In conclusion to what I'm trying to say is, Sure God chooses us but he also gives us the Free will so that, like you said in your video “freely love him”.Thanks for the video, I'm still learning more about it all.

    Reply
  4. Brandon

    Ok, I will Comment!!! I will Say that was interesting listen to. It seems that in this day of age there has been a lot of confusion about the entire Chosen, Pre-destine, and the Do we really have free Will stuff. Looking at scriptures God had Chosen the people of Israel but he had continually handed them over to their sin until they repented. Even now Christ says in
    Revelations 3:20 Look! I am standing at the door and knocking. If anyone listens to my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he will eat with me.

    To me this is saying that God has chosen to bestow His grace upon us by providing a way for us. It is on our part to “open the door” and allow God into our lives.

    In conclusion to what I'm trying to say is, Sure God chooses us but he also gives us the Free will so that, like you said in your video “freely love him”.

    Thanks for the video, I'm still learning more about it all.

    Reply
  5. BibleDude

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts Brandon! I appreciate your perspective! We could carry this conversation pretty deeply into the whole predestination discussion as you seem to touch on a bit, but I'll leave that issue for another time.

    I agree however that it is free will that give love the substance that it needs. If the subject does not have a choice, then it cannot be love. I think that this is an important thing to understand when it comes to understanding sin and salvation (as I pointed out in the video).

    Stay tuned for more in this series next week! Thanks for dropping by!

    Reply
  6. BibleDude

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts Brandon! I appreciate your perspective! We could carry this conversation pretty deeply into the whole predestination discussion as you seem to touch on a bit, but I'll leave that issue for another time.I agree however that it is free will that give love the substance that it needs. If the subject does not have a choice, then it cannot be love. I think that this is an important thing to understand when it comes to understanding sin and salvation (as I pointed out in the video).Stay tuned for more in this series next week! Thanks for dropping by!

    Reply
  7. JIM

    NICE VIDEO. VERY DEEP. SIN DOES SEPERATE US FROM GOD BUT I DONT THINK IT WOULD PUT OUR SALVATION IN JEPARDY. ALOT OF FELLOW CHRISTIANS THINK THAT AFTER THEY TAKE CHRIST IN THEIR LIFE THAT THEY ARE ALLWAYS UNDER THE HOLY MICROSCOPE. LIKE IF THEY BACK SLIDE OR MESS UP THEY LOSE THEIR SALVATION. WHEN WE ASK GOD TO FORGIVE OUR SINS HE FORGIVES ALL OF OUR PASSED SINS. AND I BELEIVE SINCE HE IS ALL KNOWING AT THAT TIME HE FORGIVES THE SINS THAT WE ARE GOING TO COMMIT. JESUS SAVES AND IS OUR SHEPARD. ONCE WE BECOME HIS SHEEP WE ARE SAFE BECAUSE HE WILL ALLWAYS COME GET US. ITS A BEAUTIFUL THING.

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  8. BibleDude

    Thanks for coming by again Jim! You start to go a little deeper into the topic of “loosing slavation” than this video intended to cover, but in doing so you raise some great questions. I hope to post some more stuff on this topic sometime.

    While I agree that there is nothing that we can do to make God not love us, I do think that we can walk away from our salvation (just as we can walk into it). People can walk into and out of marriages, and I think that salvation can be exited in the same way. The only difference is that God will not walk away from this relationship (even, as you point out, if we sin in the future).

    But discussion also brings up the point that (I think) if someone decides to walk away from their salvation, then I almost question how genuine it was in the first place….. With the type of salvation that I know (and have experienced) I don't understand how someone could walk away….

    Thanks Jim!

    Reply
  9. JIM

    NICE VIDEO. VERY DEEP. SIN DOES SEPERATE US FROM GOD BUT I DONT THINK IT WOULD PUT OUR SALVATION IN JEPARDY. ALOT OF FELLOW CHRISTIANS THINK THAT AFTER THEY TAKE CHRIST IN THEIR LIFE THAT THEY ARE ALLWAYS UNDER THE HOLY MICROSCOPE. LIKE IF THEY BACK SLIDE OR MESS UP THEY LOSE THEIR SALVATION. WHEN WE ASK GOD TO FORGIVE OUR SINS HE FORGIVES ALL OF OUR PASSED SINS. AND I BELEIVE SINCE HE IS ALL KNOWING AT THAT TIME HE FORGIVES THE SINS THAT WE ARE GOING TO COMMIT. JESUS SAVES AND IS OUR SHEPARD. ONCE WE BECOME HIS SHEEP WE ARE SAFE BECAUSE HE WILL ALLWAYS COME GET US. ITS A BEAUTIFUL THING.

    Reply
  10. JIM

    NICE VIDEO. VERY DEEP. SIN DOES SEPERATE US FROM GOD BUT I DONT THINK IT WOULD PUT OUR SALVATION IN JEPARDY. ALOT OF FELLOW CHRISTIANS THINK THAT AFTER THEY TAKE CHRIST IN THEIR LIFE THAT THEY ARE ALLWAYS UNDER THE HOLY MICROSCOPE. LIKE IF THEY BACK SLIDE OR MESS UP THEY LOSE THEIR SALVATION. WHEN WE ASK GOD TO FORGIVE OUR SINS HE FORGIVES ALL OF OUR PASSED SINS. AND I BELEIVE SINCE HE IS ALL KNOWING AT THAT TIME HE FORGIVES THE SINS THAT WE ARE GOING TO COMMIT. JESUS SAVES AND IS OUR SHEPARD. ONCE WE BECOME HIS SHEEP WE ARE SAFE BECAUSE HE WILL ALLWAYS COME GET US. ITS A BEAUTIFUL THING.

    Reply
  11. BibleDude

    Thanks for coming by again Jim! You start to go a little deeper into the topic of “loosing slavation” than this video intended to cover, but in doing so you raise some great questions. I hope to post some more stuff on this topic sometime.

    While I agree that there is nothing that we can do to make God not love us, I do think that we can walk away from our salvation (just as we can walk into it). People can walk into and out of marriages, and I think that salvation can be exited in the same way. The only difference is that God will not walk away from this relationship (even, as you point out, if we sin in the future).

    But discussion also brings up the point that (I think) if someone decides to walk away from their salvation, then I almost question how genuine it was in the first place….. With the type of salvation that I know (and have experienced) I don't understand how someone could walk away….

    Thanks Jim!

    Reply
  12. BibleDude

    Thanks for coming by again Jim! You start to go a little deeper into the topic of “loosing slavation” than this video intended to cover, but in doing so you raise some great questions. I hope to post some more stuff on this topic sometime. While I agree that there is nothing that we can do to make God not love us, I do think that we can walk away from our salvation (just as we can walk into it). People can walk into and out of marriages, and I think that salvation can be exited in the same way. The only difference is that God will not walk away from this relationship (even, as you point out, if we sin in the future). But discussion also brings up the point that (I think) if someone decides to walk away from their salvation, then I almost question how genuine it was in the first place….. With the type of salvation that I know (and have experienced) I don't understand how someone could walk away….Thanks Jim!

    Reply
  13. JIM

    no…. thank u for keeping and helping me stay on my spiritual grind.
    Love u man……. ok. im gona cry…. gota go……..

    Reply
  14. JIM

    no…. thank u for keeping and helping me stay on my spiritual grind. Love u man……. ok. im gona cry…. gota go……..

    Reply
  15. JIM

    no…. thank u for keeping and helping me stay on my spiritual grind.
    Love u man……. ok. im gona cry…. gota go……..

    Reply

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